In Episode 5 of Let's Talk Shop, host Angie Simon President, of Western Allied Mechanical, and SMACNA President-elect talks to Tony Kocurek, owner of Energy Balance and Integration LLC in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Their conversation centers on smoke/fire damper testing and certification. Tony talks about his work in air testing and balancing as well as how his company got started in fire/life safety and its implications for contractors.